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Terrorism Spreads To Belgium
The cold-blooded gunning down of eight shoppers at a supermarket outside Brussels has finally dragged staid and middle-class Belgium into the sad league of violent societies. Three or four heavily armed men entered the supermarket shooting at point-blank range, demanded cash from the check-out clerk and left, killing again.
The raid last month came only six weeks after the killers had staged attacks on two separate supermarkets, both belonging to the same chain, in one evening. These attacks also ended in the deaths of eight weekend shoppers.
Terrorism and violent robbery have become a fact of life for Belgium. A spate of bomb attacks, originally on NATO targets, but recently on banks and offices, have been carried out by the mysterious Fighting Communist Cells (Cellules Communiste Combattantes, or CCC).
The supermarket raids, more notable for the loss of life than the loss of cash, and a recent attack when a post office van was blown up and two postal workers were killed, have as much puzzled as shocked the country. Speculation has it that the CCC bombings and the work of the Brabant killers are linked. The Brabant killers have conducted 20 supermarket attacks since 1982.
A spokesman for the Belgian public prosecutor's office said after the latest supermarket raid in the suburb of Alost: "Terrorists and bandits need cash. In their communique of last May, the CCC threatened to concentrate on what it called proletarian targets."
Not everyone shares this view of the supermarket killers as the fundraisers of the CCC. For one thing, the Brabant killers have not been conspicuously successful in their hauls. In the last raid they netted less than $3,000. In previous raids their loot was nothing more than the petty cash and a few jars of coffee.
Why should such a gang risk so much for such small gains? The organization and weapons involved in the attacks point to either military or police knowledge. It is not uncommon in Belgium for a corrupt policeman or renegade soldier to take to this kind of work. In fact, he does not risk his neck. Although the death sentence is still on the books in Belgium, it was last carried out in 1919. The life sentence, to which a death sentence is invariably commuted, can be as short as 10 years.
These latest killings, including school girls, have brought calls for the reinstatement of the death penalty. Justice Minister Jean Gol told callers on a television phone-in program that the death sentence must only be used in exceptional circumstances. He added that what was needed was a sentence that could not be shortened - "another form of capital punishment".
The unruffled way the police are searching for the bombers and killers has been strongly criticized. The Belgian government says it refuses to act as a police state. Gol has been calling for the creation of a 'superpolice' that would report to the Justice Ministry and focus on drug traffickers, armed robbers and terrorists.
Bron: London Observer Service | 5 December 1985 | Liz Barder | articles.chicagotribune.com
What's interesting about the Bende van Nijvel?
My name is John Stevens and I've been invited to blog here. For instance about about the Brabant Killers (in Dutch, the Bende Van Nijvel, in French Les Tueurs du Brabant) that rampaged through Belgium in the mid 1980's).
"What's so very interesting about that?" You may think: "Who cares about unsolved armed robberies that took place over 20 years ago? And why does an Englishman find this so interesting?"
And these are fair points! But I hope to persuade you that this case is not only fascinating, but also relevant to many other major unsolved crimes. For example, I was recently contacted by a Swedish journalist whose major interest is the murder of Swedish Prime Minister Olof Palme.
He told me that the Belgian connection was considered very important right from the beginning. And it turns out that a major suspect, in the Olof Palme investigation, was a Belgian citizen. This was news for me. And what was news for the Swede was that this same person had also identified, in a Belgian police statement, as suspect No 1 as the organizer for the Brabant Killers. Interesting!
And it’s not just Sweden. Italians also have every reason to be interested. All Italians know about the unexplained bombings of the 1980’s, with perhaps the worst example being the railway station bombing in Bologna which claimed 81 lives in 1981. And many Italians know that the pseudo-masonic P2 (propagande Due) lodge was suspected of involvement. And why did the P2 do that. To destabilize the country, according to this theory.
What Italians do not know is that a key P2 member, Elio Ciolini, fled Italy and went to live in Belgium, using a false name. Was he involved in the Brabant Killings? No proof of that.
But he did become a key member of the Haemers criminal gang who committed extremely violent hold-ups in the 1980’s, and kidnapped the ex-Belgian Prime Minister. The Haemers gang remain major suspects for the Brabant Killings. And the Haemers gang gave their money, from the hold-ups, to P2 member Elio Ciolini.
Now why would they do that?
And this is what this blog is all about. I will be digging into the mystery behind the Brabant Killers and, at the same time, attempting to shed light on many of the darkest and dirtiest little secrets that have remained hidden, in many countries, during the last 20 years.
Bron » crimelink.nl | 19 december 2008
Ik denk dat dit "kaliber" onderwereld figuren er op kickt om zo links of rechts signalen uit te zenden (door gedrag, tasje dragen etc.). Alleen zij alleen weten waar dat op slaat. Zij voelen zich ook jaren daarna nog oppermachtig en de signalen zijn alleen voor intimi. Serial killers doen dat bv. ook, die laten altijd wel ergens een spoortje achter om de speurders te tarten en die gaan zelfs zo ver om encrypted messages (zodiac killer) naar de kranten of politie te sturen.
Belangrijke post Tru Dat?
Hij is waarschijnlijk woonachtig in Braine-le-Comte (of Petit-Roeulx-lez-Braine, dat wordt niet helemaal duidelijk), ik hoef niemand op dit forum uit te leggen dat dit het dichtstbijzijnde dorp naast het Bois de la Houssière is en aan de westkant van de comfort zone.
Braine-le-Comte is wel heel dicht bij het Bos (Bois de la Houssière) » Google Maps
Het Vreemdelingenlegioen had ook een marine afdeling - dat was een kamp 120 km van Saintes-Maries de la Mer vandaan, nabij la Madrague op het schiereiland Presqu'ile de Giens (onder Hyères).
Exact, en of ie nou wel of niet dronk, daar lees ik ook tegenstrijdige berichten over... Zelf zegt ie dat hij dit hele verhaal in een dronken bui vertelde, maar er zijn meerdere mensen die verklaarden dat hij in het verleden niet dronk, de zeiler die tien jaar geleden met hem in een boot zat verklaarde dat hij alleen cola dronk of koffie. Er is echter ook een verklaring dat hij lang geleden wel dronk en dan vreselijk agressief van kon worden.
Volgens mij staat hij hier met een blikje bier in z'n handen:
Ik zou weleens in de database van het Vreemdelingenlegioen willen kijken.
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